Is he trying to prove Global Warming w/ these questions?

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Okay, so I was having a mostly friendly conversation with a friend about Obama when it went to Global Warming…go figure lol. I for one don’t believe in it. He came back with questions I think is supposed to prove his point? There below as follows:

I am glad you are concerned about the environment.

I have six questions I’d love to get your thoughts on:

1.) Do you think that second-hand smoke can cause lung cancer or other health problems for non-smokers who inhale the fumes? Do you believe the research from the Tobacco Institute is unbiased, and therefore reliable regarding second-hand smoke?… See More

2.) Do you think that the Clean Air Act, which has helped reduce air pollution significantly in major cities, was a good thing? Or do you think that air pollution is not really a health problem, but rather, an aesthetic/appearance problem primarily?

3.) Do you think that the banned pesticide DDT was unfairly banned, and should be used to improve the health of people worldwide?

4.) Do you think that if asbestos was not banned in the construction of the World Trade Center…many lives would’ve been saved because it would have improved the structural integrity of the twin towers?

5.) Would you celebrate the death of a well-known and highly regarded scientist?

6.) Would you be critical of companies/corporations that have adopted environmentally-friendly practices? For example, Microsoft has abandoned the use of PVC in its packing materials. Good or bad?

BONUS QUESTION: Should we believe everything that lobbyists who are bankrolled by corporate America tell us?

Just curious what you think of the above.

Is this trying to prove his point????

Answer by Dawei
Well, those are all points that many deniers of global warming also tend to agree with. That second hand smoke and DDT are *completely* harmless, that environmental legislation is usually wrong, etc. Obviously these questions don’t have anything to do with global warming, but the correlations that your friend is implying are not entirely baseless. Number 4 seems a bit odd though.

If you’d like to discuss the science of global warming and your reasons for being skeptical, feel free to post another question about that. You’ll get plenty of insightful responses.

Answer by spk
1) Yes. I get a headache smelling second hand smoke (Well, I get a headache smelling almost everything!)

2)The clean air act was a good thing… do you notice how much easier it is to breath when you’re out of the city?

3)The pesticide DDT was not unfairly banned. It was killing the Bald Eagle. And… well… the bald eagle couldn’t be our national bird if it was dead.

4)idk

5)Well, the birthday of one. We already get Darwin’s birthday off! He was born the same day (same year, too) as Abraham Lincon

6)Good…PVC kills more PEOPLE than sharks kill people.

BONUS QUESTION: no

I think he’s just trying to get you to change sides, without being too obvious.

Answer by Jeff M
His questions seem to take the alarmists side in that everything listed was either questioned or lobbied against with the reality of the situation being on the alarmists side. Except the one concerning the celebration of a well known and highly regarded scientist. I’m not exactly sure if a denier has ‘celebrated’ though I’m sure this is an incorrect use of the word, this but in the climategate emails it is thought that the alarmists ‘celebrated’ the death of one of their proponents.

Answer by GibsonEssGee
1. Vehicle exhaust fumes are probably more dangerous than 2nd hand cig smoke although if it’s dense I can understand the potential dangers of 2nd hand smoke. I’ve been at parties and pubs where you could breathe in and get a “hit”.
2. The Clean Air Act has proven itself to be justified. London for example no longer gets the killer smogs it used to get in the 50′s/60′s.
3. Annoyed about the banning of DDT. It was the active ingredient of the best cat flea spray (Nuvan Top).
4. Lack of asbestos would not have affected the structural integrity of the twin towers. They weren’t designed to withstand an impact from several hundred tons of aircraft.
5. No, why would you?
6. If a company changes it’s packaging it’s done on cost savings which may be cynically marketed as environmentally friendly.
Bonus : No.

Answer by linlyons
Dawei has it right.
Those questions do not relate to global warming.
However, as you can see from a couple of the vigorous complaints, they do bother some folks who deny global warming.
If i had to guess, his intent was to see whether your opinion of global warming was just about that, or whether you followed the thinking on a number of issues that are commonly seen in those that deny global warming.

since you posted the question in the global warming section, one might presume that’s where your interests lie.
As you might suspect, i disagree with you.
Here’s a couple links that contain reasons that some folks who think global warming is not real often agree with, and why those reasons are incorrect.
As dawei said, feel free to post again to have more of a conversation on the subject.

http://scholarsandrogues.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/

http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/dn11462

http://www.skepticalscience.com/

http://www.ecohuddle.com/wiki/global-warming-myths <== Dana's explanation is probably the best.

(of course, there is the question of views on Obama, but maybe one item at a time is enough.)

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150 FT. CELL TOWER 20 FT FROM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL?

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THE TOWN WANTS TO PUT UP A 150 FT. CELL TOWER 20 FT. FROM MY KIDS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THE COMPANY CLAIMS THAT NO HARMFUL HEALTH AFFECTS CAN COME OF THIS???? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE? THERE ARE CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS 3 AT THIS SCHOOL…. DO YOU KNOW OF ANY REPUTABLE WEBSITES THAT I CAN COLLECT DATA FROM ABOUT HEALTH RISKS TO CHILDREN FROM COMMUNICATION AND CELL TOWERS. THE COMPANY KEEPS TELLING THE TOWN THAT THERE ARE NO SCIENTIFIC STUDIES THAT PROVE THAT CELL TOWERS POSE ANY HEALTH RISKS!!! BUT I SAY, THERE ARE NO STUDIES THAT PROVE THAT THEY DON’T!!!!!!! IS THERE SOME KIND OF “BUFFER ZONE” NEEDED? HOW DO I KNOW THAT YEARS DOWN THE ROAD MY KIDS WONT DEVELOP CANCER OR BRAIN TUMORS????
THERE WILL BE ONE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL SO 5 YEARS OF THIS AT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THEN ANOTHER 4 YEARS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL!!!
WHAT IS THIS A SCIENCE EXPERIMENT? PLEASE HELP!!!!! THESE ARE VERY YOUNG CHILDREN, THEIR SKULLS ARENT EVEN FULLY DEVELOPED YET. THE BONE ISN’T AS THICK AS IN AN ADULT…. I NEED SOME REPUTABLE SITES TO DO RESEARCH WITH!!! THANK YOU

REMEMBER WHEN SMOKING WAS SAFE???
WHAT ABOUT WHAT WE NOW KNOW ABOUT ASBESTOS????
thank you all so much for your help! you have answered alot of questions for me, and have eased my mind a little , thank you

Answer by mike1942f
Why the H— are you YELLING at us! Very hard to read.
The cell tower transmission is not 20 feet from your kids – it is 150+ feet. And cell towers are very low power to keep their signals within the limits of the cells.
The cell phone you gave your kids or that you carry probably has more radiation power because it is so close to your/their body – but I don’t believe it is a real risk either.
Smoking was never safe.

Answer by geniusadam
No reason to use all caps… also, the cell phones themselves are more risk as they’ll transmit the signals, and they originate very close to your head.

Your kids are going to be exposed to cell phone waves for the rest of their lives. While it’s true that we now understand the negative effects of asbestos, choosing to work with asbestos or not is a choice, whereas having cellular waves surround us is not.

I suggest you relax and try to understand that scientific studies can never prove no negative effects. Scientific studies can only suggest with a confidence level that an element they studied showed no effects.

I would spend my time instead of worrying about cellular towers, worrying about childhood obesity and education.

Answer by Keith
You should probably be more concerned with the kids getting in and climbing the tower and falling, or the tower coming down in a storm than any health hazard from radiation. Personally, I don’t buy into the dangers.

That said, here is a place to start.

http://www.cellphonesafety.org/health/radio.htm

the ‘clinical studies’ link on that page leads to:

http://www.cellphonesafety.org/health/clinical.htm

and here is a wiki article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health

You may have already though about this, but…
Contact your city hall and ask about local building codes for towers.
20 feet from a building seems a little to close for any kind of tower.
It’s likely illegal for you to put any tower that high in your back yard because of ‘safety issues’ without a waiver allowing the violation.

Please don’t post in all caps.
Most find it harder to read.

Good Luck.

Answer by monophoto
It seems to me that you have arrived at an emotional answer to your question even before you asked it here. This is supposed to be an objective scientific dialog, but if you have already predisposed to believe what you want to believe, then your question is nothing more than political rhetoric.

I suspect the situation you are concerned about is in Loudonville, NY.

There has been a lot of unproven speculation that cell phones MIGHT have unknown health effects. The concern, however, is not for the overall ambient, for for the individual user of the cell phone who is holding the phone against the ear – inches away from the brain. However, there is no actual evidence of any link between cell phone usage and adverse health effects.

You seem to be saying that until it is proven that there is no harm, then cell phone towers should not be built near schools. How near? The school in Loudonville is actually about 1500 feet from the proposed tower location. Is that too close? What about potential harm to kids who are simply driving down Rt. 9? If that’s a concern, then the logical extension of your argument is that there can be no cell phone towers anywhere until there is proof that they cause no harm.

If cell phone transmissions have adverse health effects, then radio and TV transmissions have the same consequences. And garage door openers, and home wireless networks, and the keyless entry device for your car, and the gadget that allows you to start you car in the winter from inside your house, and the local network that permits the sales clerk at the Apple store to ring up your sale while standing in the middle of the show room, and the remote control you use to turn your holiday lights on and off, etc, etc, etc. Unfortunately, there is nowhere on the planet you can go to avoid those technologies.

Answer by prodigy
Please don’t yell.

Electrical Engineer here. My specific jobs at my previous employer was to test the RF radiation parameters of base station towers. The ones you are talking about are called sectored transponder antennas. And to be quite honest with you ma’am, you and your children are quite safe. Why, I can be absolutely certain without even asking where you are, that you are currently being irradiated by signals from C Bands, K, Ku, several RF bands, and various other bands of the electromagnetic spectrum just like the rest of us.

Now, to calm you down with some science, if the measurements that you have given us above are correct, then looking at the radiation plot of a 3 sectored base station antenna at 20 feet which I just calculated and plotted for your case, there are at least 4 downward lobes and hence 4 null points at your distance, of course you would receive signal (RSSI on your cellphone would show you this) because of scatter wave propagation, Rician signal distribution and Rayleigh parameters of signals which are other transient nature of a transmitted signals.

In other words, you shouldn’t be worried at all. Smoking was never safe, and common sense told this to most people, but people continued to smoke to satiate their own desires, not because it was told safe. Companies which Base-stations are contracted out to, like Solar Communications Inc, make them so nondescript, and concealed, a lot of them are not as obvious as you think it is, its not a huge red and white, metal tower like those used for power transmission, these are highly engineered sophisticated electronics, which are tested extensively on the field and lab conditions. Your kneejerk reaction and misguided anger is pretty meaningless, if you care to carefully examine the science.

You make some great points, but for your sake – lose the attitude.

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Opinions..?? I got sent this in an email.. its a lil long…?

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CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL MY FRIENDS WHO WERE BORN IN THE

1930′s 1940′s, 50′s, 60′s and early 70′s !

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they carried us and lived in houses made of asbestos. They took aspirin, ate blue cheese, raw egg products, loads of bacon and processed meat, tuna from a can, and didn’t get tested for diabetes or cervical cancer.

Then after that trauma, our baby cots were covered with bright coloured lead-based paints.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets or shoes, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.

As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.

We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.

Take away food was limited to fish and chips, no pizza shops, McDonalds , KFC, Subway or Nandos.

Even though all the shops closed at 6.00pm and didn’t open on the weekends, somehow we didn’t starve to death!

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.

We could collect old drink bottles and cash them in at the corner store and buy Toffees, Gobstoppers, Bubble Gum and some bangers to blow up frogs with. We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank soft drinks with sugar in it, but we weren’t overweight because……

WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!!

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of old prams and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. We built tree houses and dens and played in river beds with matchbox cars.

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo Wii , X-boxes, no video games at all, no 999 channels on SKY , no video/dvd films, no mobile phones, no personal computers, no Internet or Internet chat rooms……….WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no
Lawsuits from these accidents.

Only girls had pierced ears!

We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.

You could only buy Easter Eggs and Hot Cross Buns at Easter time…

We were given air guns and catapults for our 10th birthdays,

We rode bikes or walked to a friend’s house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just yelled for them!

Mum didn’t have to go to work to help dad make ends meet!

RUGBY and CRICKET had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn’t had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!! Getting into the team was based on MERIT

Our teachers used to hit us with canes and gym shoes and bully’salways ruled the playground at school.

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!

Our parents didn’t invent stupid names for their kids like ‘Kiora’ and ‘Blade’ and ‘Ridge’ and ‘Vanilla’ “And we never had a whole Mars bar until 1993″!!!

We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL !

And YOU are one of them! CONGRATULATIONS!

You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good.
***STAR IF YOU AGREE***

Answer by тнε gιяℓ.✿(suspended)
‘No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.’

…That part was a joke, right? O.o

Answer by Fantastic Ordinary
I wasn’t born in those years, but i was born in 81 – my parents raised my older sister (she was born in 78) and me pretty much the same way this email indicates… HOWEVER, my younger brother and younger sister were NOT raised the same way my older sister and i were – mom and dad bailed them out, no spankings, mom and dad made sure they got onto sports teams regardless of the try-out results, etc. etc.

i totally agree with this – only thing i don’t agree with is the comment where mom didn’t have to work because dad could make ends meet. my grandmother worked (she was born in 1923) because she wanted to work. my mother worked because she liked to teach. i work because i like auditing (my job) – i plan to continue working after i have children, i just won’t work full-time. what kills me is when my mom says she didn’t work when i was younger – but she did!! she says she can’t believe i’ll let other people raise my children (aka putting them in daycare – God forbid!!). I see nothing wrong with daycare and i don’t consider it “other people raising my children.”

Answer by Savagedancer
..I got that a while back……….those were different times and the world is evolving and changing…we can’t expect to stay in one time forever…
I wish things were more simple, but they aren’t..
I say we make this era one people will look back on and say “wow, remember when things were great back then”..

Answer by fandango
I give it a star. But I don’t understand the part about not having a whole Mars bar until 1993. There would also be some differences as to fast food, and when stores were closed in the states.

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Something for the over 30′s.?

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CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL MY FRIENDS WHO WERE BORN IN THE
1930′s 1940′s, 50′s, 60′s and early 70′s !
First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they carried us and lived in houses made of asbestos.
They took aspirin, ate blue cheese, raw egg products, loads of bacon and processed meat, tuna from a can, and didn’t get tested for diabetes or cervical cancer.
Then after that trauma, our baby cots were covered with bright coloured lead-based paints.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets or shoes, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.
As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.
We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.
Take away food was limited to fish and chips, no pizza shops, McDonalds , KFC, Subway or Nandos.
Even though all the shops closed at 6.00pm and didn’t open on the weekends, somehow we didn’t starve to death!
We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.
We could collect old drink bottles and cash them in at the corner store and buy Toffees, Gobstoppers, Bubble Gum and some bangers to blow up frogs with.
We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank soft drinks with sugar in it, but we weren’t overweight because……
WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!!
We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.
No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.
We would spend hours building our go-carts out of old prams and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. We built tree houses and dens and played in river beds with matchbox cars.
We did not have Playstations, Nintendo Wii , X-boxes, no video games at all, no 999 channels on SKY ,
no video/dvd films,
no mobile phones, no personal computers, no Internet or Internet chat rooms……….WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no
Lawsuits from these accidents.

Only girls had pierced ears!

We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.

You could only buy Easter Eggs and Hot Cross Buns at Easter time…

We were given air guns and catapults for our 10th birthdays,

We rode bikes or walked to a friend’s house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just yelled for them!
Mum didn’t have to go to work to help dad make ends meet!

RUGBY and CRICKET had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn’t had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!! Getting into the team was based on
MERIT

Our teachers used to hit us with canes and gym shoes and bully’s always ruled the playground at school.

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of.
They actually sided with the law!

Our parents didn’t invent stupid names for their kids like ‘Kiora’ and ‘Blade’ and ‘Ridge’ and ‘Vanilla’

We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO
DEAL WITH IT ALL !

And YOU are one of them!
CONGRATULATIONS!
You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good.

PS -The big type is because your eyes are not too good at your age anymore

Answer by Lα∂у Lєχι
Lol my Nanna’s always asking how she brought up 3 children without all the guidance and rules there are now. Eg no rusks, dummies are evil, don’t walk too soon, no bottles in bed, cry it out, don’t let them cry it out, cows’ milk at a year old, no honey, no nuts, use hand gel at all times, don’t use bio washing powder etc etc.

And that’s just guidance up to a year old. And there’s more.

I played on the rocks on the sea wall, in the nearby woods and generally outside. I climbed trees, made dens and paddled in mucky puddles. However I suffered no broken bones until I tripped on a loose pavement slab in Manchester city centre 3 years ago, where I broke my big toe.

And it still won’t bend (any ideas welcome).

Answer by Toast
You are 100% correct of course. Unfortunately, some of us had some rather heartbreaking failures in adult life and wish we could return to those days and live forever. I am one of those.

Answer by BusyOldBag
Yes, I remember this.

Answer by Lash LaRue
i was born in 1945…my mom never smoked or drank..my dad worked in a rubber factory making tires..me and my 2 sisters never thought of anything but school..church and playing OUTSIDE..black and white tv..hoppalong cassidy…howdy doody..cowboys and indians..and we never shot anybody when we went to school..we also had manners and RESPECT for others..we were even allowed to pray in schools..say merry christmas and show the cross and the ten commandments..we drank real water..only tv and one car..heavy dial phones..one…when my parents said to do this or that we better had done it because back then a spanking wasn’t a federal offense..and what made those days so much fun…NO ACLU…nobody suing everybody..we swallowed our pride and moved on..we also didn’t have 20 outfits for school

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Is it a coincidence that global warming “skeptics” make a lot of scientifically questionable claims?

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Roy Spencer is a huge proponent of Intelligent Design (he also claimed the lower atmosphere was cooling until his analysis was proven wrong). Roy Lindzen doesn’t think secondhand smoke causes lung cancer. Neither does Fred Singer, or that CFCs caused the hole in the ozone layer.

An article written by columnist Christopher Booker has recently been cited by “skeptics”. Booker has previously argued that asbestos is “chemically identical to talcum powder” and “poses no measurable risk to health”.

Why is it that these sources of global warming “skepticism” so frequently make such scientifically questionable (or more often, just flat-out wrong) claims?
correction – I meant *Richard* Lindzen.

Answer by uk_pindar
Are you paid to spread the myth that man can affect global warming and cooling cycles. I think you are! Stop the propaganda

Answer by gwens18a
Does accuracy and evidence matter to someone whose mind is already made up that in no way will they admit that a warming planet is a fact of life? A sceptic does not care about evidence any more than does a young earth creationist and quite often they are the same people. Before accepting reality they are ready to accept the absurd and there is obviously money selling the absurd. One just needs to see the saddle on the dinosaur at the Creationism Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky to see the absurd in action. Fred Singer who you mentioned is a prime example, he is ready to rent his PhD to sell any message for cash, facts be damned. Ethics are of no concern to people like this, but money sure is. We know about the money from oil companies, but there is also money for writing articles that sell papers and there is money in speaking tours. All you need is a message that the sceptic on the street is willing to pay to listen to.
If they wanted facts, the Farmer’s Almanac (old or otherwise)would have been out of business 150 years ago.

Answer by Nata T
so, do you want to question the heat capacity of water or dirt? they have been studied by all the scientist that believe and don not believe and BOTH SIDES AGREE that the land and water hold millions of times the “warming” of plain old air. Now what do your AGW say about LYING?????????????? get it they lie about the water and lan d..

Answer by Ron Burgundy
Dana Boobie, until you can state clearly what the global mean temperature/climate should be (according to your collective climate consensus), you are simply tuggunya puddah! Please study some basic science at your local Sacramento, CA JC!

Until you quantify anthropogenic CO2 emissions and prove that they are a driver of the global climate, you are simply another psychic twinky in the space time continuum. Stop your historical cherry picking, you are a bit, but not much, smarter than that. Free your Arrrrse, and your limited electric scooter mind will follow!!

Answer by allan
It’s not merely the fictional statements that count, we also have to believe the facts he stated.

The issue of global warming is on a nationwide basis. Opinions count, they may be right or wrong, but facts matter most.
Global Warming ,if not prevented, will end the human race.

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Okay what is the true answer? Does dip have fiberglass in it or not?

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I heard that dip had fiberglass in it, which is like asbestos basically…when seen under a microscope or whatever, there are barbs that cut into your tissue to APPARENTLY get the nicotine into your bloodstream faster. I just don’t get it! If there is no fiberglass, you would still get the nicotine into your bloodstream through your mouth tissue. It’s just like the nicotine patch, except it’s on the inside and not the outside of your skin…err whatever.

My dad is a dentist and he said he heard that dip has fiberglass but he said even he is not positively sure. Would the FDA even allow tobacco companies to put dip in your mouth if it had fiberglass shards in it?! I dunno.

I guess the safest way is snus if you absolutely need the nicotine. I’ve been smoke-free for three days, but I’ve been dippin’ cuz smoking may cause cancer much later than dip, but it puts carbon monoxide into your bloodstream which takes 72 hours to get out and also lowers your oxygen levels for the same amount of time. I already feel like I have a lot more energy since I quit smoking, probably because of the carbon monoxide alone.

I want to quit all tobacco products indefinitely, but I can’t afford nicotine patches right now, yes, even from eBay…they are just too expensive…and dip, comparitively, is much less money than cigarettes which are less than the patch, making it much much less.

Really I just want to know about the fiberglass shenanigans…

Thanks.
This has to do with men’s health because I have never ever ever known a woman or even seen a woman who did dip before. I heard that in the south of the U.S., women chew tobacco, but I’m not talking about chew and I don’t live in the south.
Anna, maybe that’s because most of the guys here have extremely low self-esteem or they are just young and unsure about themselves. Nothing wrong with that. I posted here, because I saw in “SEARCH” another question like mine posted in “Men’s Health” a few months ago that did not answer my question.

Answer by 80sfan
Interesting question I shall look into it!

Answer by Ian
if you make your own then you wont have to worry about it

Answer by Anna
And this has to do with men’s health because… ?

Edit; Oh, okay. But just so you know, basically the only questions we get here are about masturbation or penis size.

Answer by Barry
Wherever you heard that fiberglass is in dip, stop listening to them They’re fools. Or terrorists. All terrorists don’t use bombs. Some use mis-information.

The patch may be more expensive than cigarettes but you’re only spending that money for a short period of time, and you’re spending the money on tobacco for a long period of time. It’s cheaper in the long run to quit, even if you have to buy the patch. And dip is just as bad.

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Does we have to REgress ,…..to PROgress?

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There has been more “technical” advancements in the last 60 yrs , than the previous 2000 . Are we on a runaway train that is going ever faster,and inevitably will derail ? Man has created , in the past 60 yrs, agent orange…formaldehyde…asbestos…saccharine…etc, I could go on for hrs , but these products were hyped and later found to contain cancer causing agents ! If we were to live as those in 16th and 17th century would we be better off ? Appreciate educated answers ! Tweens should play in the comics category !

Answer by K2
A judicious mix of both is appropriate.One needs comforts.

Answer by Jody
Though there have been dangers associated with some creations, we are doing something right.

Live birth rates are far higher today and the average lifespan of both men and women is twice as long as in the 16th and 17th century.

How many do you suppose died of toxic kerosene and lamp oil fumes in their homes, lack of antibiotics, hypothermia, dehydration, pork fat, undiagnosed and untreated heart disease, high blood pressure, cancer, contaminated water and meat, fleas, rat infestation, no sewage or toilets, no pesticides or mosquito repellant, no transportation to the doctor, childbirth complications, unchlorinated water, drought, famine, unannounced natural disasters like hurricanes, tornado, —

No thanks, i’ll take my chances today..

Answer by GO COLTS!!!!!
Even with all of the things you have mentioned, I will take today over the other century’s. The reason: I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior. I don’t fear what might or might not happen in today’s world, because He is in control.

John 3:16-17

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Is mobile phones soooooo important in our life??? Can’t v stay out of it???

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/mobiles-greater-risk-than-asbestos/2008/03/31/1206850768836.html

http://eldib.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/cell-phones-dangerous-due-to-brain-cancer-risk/

http://www.tuberose.com/Cell_Phones.html

http://brainethics.files.wordpress.com/2006/07/save-brain2.jpg

Answer by JRock
i think the only people that will be really effected by it will be those ignorant rude people that are on their phones ALL the time so in effect its a kind of ignorant population controll….cool.

Answer by brr cold
I remember when they were not an affordable item & pagers were the thing. now I wish I had never gotten one. I would be happier with out one, life would be easier and less stressful also.

Answer by MysterioX
I’m not clicking on your links, but I agree the influence on cellular/mobile phones on our societies is disturbing. It hit me hard when I lost my phone and realized I’d lost the numbers of many people I want to remain in contact with. I’ve got in touch with most of them but there is still one who I haven’t been able to get in touch with and I really regret it. We used to memorize numbers, or at least keep them in address books. Props to the people who still do. Also, people are getting themselves into situations now where they need cell phones. They are not planning ahead on outings, instead depending on being able to use their cell phones to meet up with people or get to where they need to go. What happens then when someone loses the little device, or something bigger happens which renders the little device inert?

We’re becoming too dependent on technology as a society. Our economic systems are too unstable for us to rely on them to the extent we are. What happens when we can’t afford to pay the bills to keep up? The technological structures that make the things we depend on operate are not flawless and prone to huge lapses. The Y2K thing didn’t happen, but instead of heading the warnings we dismissed it as hype. It’s just a matter of time before it becomes reality and something major happens, depriving us for an extended period of the technology we depend on. No, I’m not oblivious to the irony of me making this statement from my laptop, wirelessly connected to my cable modem. That does not render my points inert.

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Do we comprehend the disasters of the moment???????????

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…the nurding home fire, the river in flood
pouring over the sandbag levee, the airplane
crash with fragments of burnt bodies
scattered among the hunks of twisted metal,
the grenade in the marketplace, the sinking ship.

But how to grasp a thing that does not
kill you today or tomorrow
but slowly from the inside in twenty years.
How to feel that a corporate or governmental
choice means we bear twisted genes and our
grandchildren will be stillborn if our
children are very lucky.

Slow death can not be photographed for the six
oclock news. Its all statistical,
the gross national product or the prime
lending rate. Yet if our eyes saw
in the right spectrum, how it would shine,
lurid as magenta neon.

If we could smell radiation like seeping
gas, if we could sense it as heat, if we
could hear it as a low ominous roar
of the earth shifting, then we would not sit
and be poisoned while industry spokesmen
talk of acceptable millirems and ~O2
cancer per population thousand.

We acquiesce at murder so long as it is slow,
murder from asbestos dust, from tobacco,
from lead in the water, from sulphur in the air,
and fourteen years later statistics are printed
on the rise in leukemia among children.
We never see their faces. They never stand,
those poisoned children together in a courtyard,
and are gunned down by men in three-piece suits.

The shipyard workers who built nuclear
submarines, the soldiers who were marched
into the Nevada desert to be tested by the H-
bomb, the people who work in power plants,
they die quietly years after in hospital
wards- and not on the evening news.

The soft spring rain floats down and the air
is perfumed with pine and earth. Seedlings
drink it in, robins sip it in puddles,
you run in it and feel clean and strong,
the spring rain blowing from the irradiated
cloud Over the power plant.

Radiation is oppression, the daily average
kind, the kind youre almost used to
and live with as the years abrade you,
high blood pressure, ulcers, cramps, migraine,
a hacking cough you take it inside
and it becomes pain and you say, not
They are killing me but I am sick now.

Marge Piercy

Answer by old school
yes we do.

i did not read that drivel.

Answer by Sara
By golly, that was great.
It reminds me of the time I came back to college from break in the spring and saw the lawns completely littered with dead robins and other birds. The over-zealous maintenance men had accidentally poisoned them with something they had put on the lawn. Perhaps the birds ate poisoned bugs, or just got the poison all over them from walking on the grass.
I also saw the Cuyahoga River when it was thick like jello with pollution, trash bobbing in it but sticking solid.
Great free verse from this author Piercy.

Answer by Part Time Cynic
We don’t learn from history
We only comprehend that what affects us directly
Radiation is freedom
It’s the vibe in the air that caries the sound of the wind
We can change things
But never will we tame that what keeps us alive
But I’m just screwed to the bone
And made the Universe my home
There are no stars
Only suns.

Answer by Daniel John
I remember 9/11, now looking back on it. I was in the teacher’s lounge with one of my fellow teachers, a Lebanese man who also had a first period prep that year. We had the TV on in the background, and the Today show cut to an airplane crash. I thought to myself, what a tragedy, and thought to myself how close planes always fly to the big buildings here in Pittsburgh (they still do, it’s not something they’ve stopped since 9/11) and thought, I wonder why that doesn’t happen more… with human error. (I remember flying into Chicago and how close that airport is to all the big buildings too, but you come in at a different angle, over Gary Indiana)

Then the second one hit, and even then it took me about a minute to comprehend that it was a terrorist attack… When it first hit, I was thinking, are they showing the wreck again?

Answer by Julia
They are killing me but I am sick now.
bye bye then

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Is this list ridiculous or what?

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List of things that cause cancer:
Acetaldehyde, acrylamide, acrylonitril, abortion, agent orange, alar, alcohol, air pollution, aldrin, alfatoxin, arsenic, arsine, asbestos, asphalt fumes, atrazine, AZT, baby food, barbequed meat, benzene, benzidine, benzopyrene, beryllium, beta-carotene, betel nuts, birth control pills, bottled water, bracken, bread, breasts, bus stations, calcium channel blockers, cadmium, captan, carbon black, carbon tetrachloride, careers for women, casual sex, car fumes, celery, charred foods, cooked foods, chewing gum, Chinese food, Chinese herbal supplements, chips, chloramphenicol, chlordane, chlorinated camphene, chlorinated water, chlorodiphenyl, chloroform, cholesterol, low cholesterol, chromium, coal tar, coffee, coke ovens, crackers, creosote, cyclamates, dairy products, deodorants, depleted uranium, depression, dichloryacetylene, DDT, dieldrin, diesel exhaust, diet soda, dimethyl sulphate, dinitrotouluene, dioxin, dioxane, epichlorhydrin, ethyle acrilate, ethylene, ethilene dibromide, ethnic beliefs,ethylene dichloride, Ex-Lax, fat, fluoridation, flying, formaldehyde, free radicals, french fries, fruit, gasoline, genes, gingerbread, global warming, gluteraldehyde, granite, grilled meat, Gulf war, hair dyes, hamburgers, heliobacter pylori, hepatitis B virus, hexachlorbutadiene, hexachlorethane, high bone mass, HPMA, HRT, hydrazine, hydrogen peroxide, incense, infertility, jewellery, Kepone, kissing, lack of exercise, laxatives, lead, left handedness, Lindane, Listerine, low fibre diet, magnetic fields, malonaldehyde, mammograms, manganese, marijuana, methyl bromide, methylene chloride, menopause, microwave ovens, milk hormones, mixed spices, mobile phones, MTBE, nickel, night lighting, night shifts, nitrates, not breast feeding, not having a twin, nuclear power plants, Nutrasweet, obesity, oestrogen, olestra, olive oil, orange juice, oxygenated gasoline, oyster sauce, ozone, ozone depletion, passive smoking, PCBs, peanuts, pesticides, pet birds, plastic IV bags, polio vaccine, potato crisps (chips), power lines, proteins, Prozac, PVC, radio masts, radon, railway sleepers, red meat, Roundup, saccharin, salt, sausage, selenium, semiconductor plants, shellfish, sick buildings, soy sauce, stress, strontium, styrene, sulphuric acid, sun beds, sunlight, sunscreen, talc, tetrachloroethylene, testosterone, tight bras, toast, toasters, tobacco, tooth fillings, toothpaste (with fluoride or bleach), train stations, trichloroethylene, under-arm shaving, unvented stoves, uranium, UV radiation, vegetables, vinyl bromide, vinyl chloride, vinyl fluoride, vinyl toys, vitamins, vitreous fibres, wallpaper, weedkiller (2-4 D), welding fumes, well water, weight gain, winter, wood dust, work, x-rays.
I don’t know if this list is true, I just googled it.

Answer by Jack
I see you got the abridged list.

Answer by Hottie
WOW!!!

Answer by Mexican M20
hell no i am not reading all that.

Answer by I eat your socks
Wow..and in abc order too.

Answer by moo cow
good thing cows isn’t on that list

next month there will prolly be another 100 things on that list

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